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Seatomint
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poker cheats?

Postby Seatomint » Wed Mar 30, 2005 1:00 am

does poker programs favor anyone? like someone will have the nuts five hands in a row? always make on the flop and win on river??
Troms1983
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hmm

Postby Troms1983 » Wed Mar 30, 2005 5:46 am

that is extremely doubtful. Theres no way a poker casino would ever want to program software to do that, first, why would the computer care who wins the hand, it wont benifet them either way. If they do in fact do this, then online poker is a scam job...
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Postby Sages1989 » Fri Apr 01, 2005 12:42 am

i agree. why do it?? no reason.

you can win 5 x ina row.

usually with good cards and good play.

donvic
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Kinda Strange

Postby Appont » Fri Apr 01, 2005 7:13 pm

I Agree.....I Feel Like Sometimes Sites Favor Certain Players....I Mean I Have Seen "Certain" Players Flop All Kind Of Crazy Stuff When I Had Top Hand To The End....Kinda Weird
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Postby Uniere93 » Sun May 22, 2005 11:40 pm

I do think sometimes they try and hurry the game along and try to end it. When you come back from a break two people have a pocket pair.
Sometimes i believe they set up hands.
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Postby Whisis » Tue May 31, 2005 11:00 pm

In tournament I do notice the really short stacks going all-in with great hands but losing to pretty much anyone who calls.
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Postby Amor1993 » Wed Jun 01, 2005 2:28 pm

there are a few cheat programs out there that ppl use, but, notice when u cash out on a site that it's very hard to build again, it happens on all sites
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Postby Feckeps96 » Sun Jun 05, 2005 5:46 pm

i just have to say its about playin solid and havin the balls forget the odds and cheat programs
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Postby Gesch1984 » Sun Jun 05, 2005 6:05 pm

Forget the Odds?? isn't that how poker works? might as well just play every hand you get
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Postby Gagoem » Mon Jun 06, 2005 10:33 pm

I feel that the game of poker is very unpredictable, and while playing the percentages in any given hand will increase your chance of winning, sometimes you just have to throw that "percentage handbook" out the window and trust your instincts. I've come across a lot of online poker players of late who will chastise you if you "play the hand incorrectly" against them. From my experience, they are these "college kids" who think they've got the probability of hands down pat; to go against the odds will only lead you to failure. I enjoy taking their money EACH AND EVERY TIME they feel so strongly about this too.

I'll give you an example of a recent game I was involved in. I had an A 10, and noticed that my opponents at the table were playing on the conservative side. I usually play somewhat conservative myself, but in this case, I felt taking an aggressive approach was to my benefit. I raised the big blind (I don't remember what the blinds were) and was re-raised all-in by one of my opponents. The person next to him called all-in, and everyone else before me folded. To call the all-in and lose, I would have been left with a couple hundred chips. For some reason, I felt my opponents had low pocket pairs, so I decided to call with my A 10.

They both revealed their cards; one opponent had K K and the other opponent had Q Q. IMMEDIATELY, I was being ridiculed for calling with such a "preposterous hand"! This was before the hand even finished. The flop came down, and neither one of them caught trips; K K was looking even better to my A 10 now. On the turn, an A came up. Boy was this guy fuming! :evil: Then the river; I could only lose with a K or Q. Neither came up, and I eliminated both players.

I'm very congratulatory when I play, win or lose, so I offered a gg (good game) to both players. The person with Q Q acknowledged my hand, and wished me good luck. The guy with K K, however, wanted to know "HOW I CALLED THAT ALL-IN WITH A 10?" I said "I felt good about the A". I didn't know what else to say? I trust my instincts; if I'd felt the guy had A A instead of K K, I would have folded. Sometimes my instincts fail me, and I live with my decision. Of course my instincts were semi-wrong in that I felt he had a low pocket pair, and not K K. You'd think the guy would get over his beat, and move on? NO- he continued complaining about it for nearly an hour. I didn't let him distract me, and most of the players who remained supported me, and told him to "quit crying".

Eventually this guy left, but not without throwing a few insults my way. From my experience playing poker, if you get in someone's head, you've got them. I continued playing well, but was eventually eliminated, finishing in 10th place out of 478 people. As soon as I was eliminated, guess who showed up to RUB IT IN? :lol:

He said to me "I hope you enjoyed wasting two hours of your time for nothing!" I said to him, "I hope you enjoyed wasting more time complaining about the time you wasted! And don't you have anything better to do?" :lol:
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Postby Gesch1984 » Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:56 am

granted yes there is luck involved, but in the long run the odds will even out. KK will win about 71 % of the hands heads up against A 10, the thing i have a problem with is that if your gut misjudges their hands, and it did, if you run into AK or AQ even AJ for that matter you just put all your chips into a pot where unless you get super lucky (and it does happen), you are more or less dominated. I don't have a problem with people making bad calls, cuz it does happen, I have a problem with people who try and justify the bad as good because they think they are good at poker or they had a gut feeling, i.e. people who call preflop raises with low suited connectors and get lucky, and people who have no business being in hands and some how end up getting runner runner flushes with one card in their hand. Hell greg raimer made a lot of bad decisions while he was playing and got damn lucky, does that make him a good player, no not in my opinion, he is 5 million dollars richer though, so he probably doesnt really care what I think. thats the end of that rant

side note: how much would the game change if holdem required you to use both cards to flush or straight and not just one?
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Postby Polday » Thu Jun 09, 2005 2:56 am

SirManiak wrote:side note: how much would the game change if holdem required you to use both cards to flush or straight and not just one?


That would be an odd variation of Omaha!
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Postby Foready » Tue Jun 14, 2005 1:18 am

Dose anyone ever notice that about Half of the time your same cards come out the the very next had or is it just me??
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Postby Dayincle » Wed Jun 15, 2005 9:39 pm

i think it is favorable to certain players, or unfavorable to some, on or the other. but i think that is to speed up the game. and i have noticed i will get the same cards the very next hand, i thought that was strage too, and the 2nd time those cards will NEVER win.
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Postby Evid1967 » Tue Jun 28, 2005 5:27 pm

Online Poker no matter what site you go to is a trip. I think you have to play each site based on how you believe they shuffle the decks. Some site always seem to be the "TV" site, where each time a very big hand or two alway seem to hit. On others I seem to get the same cards over and over again. Always either a Ace and low card, or a Queen and Low card.

Just yeaterday, in 30 deals I had 22 of those 30 deals with Q and a Low card. Never once did I match up a queen to any card on the flop, bend or river, or even if folded my queen would not have matched up.

On the downside I played low bets and went out of the game on two hands, I had pocket aces and lost to 3 queens.

then went out having a A K and the other person is sitting on pocket queens

Go figure

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