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I got yelled at for the way I played this hand

Postby Hatent1995 » Fri Apr 15, 2005 5:08 am

Man was this guy pissed off at me. Did I deserve it...what do you guys think?

Sit and go touney, 4 players left, I had about 800 chips and the pissed off guy had about 1200.

I was under the gun and was dealt 6 :s A :d . Not a very good hand so I just called the $30 blind to hopefully see a cheap flop. Mr. pissed called from the small blind and the big blind checked.

Flop: 8 :s K :s 2 :c Everyone checks.
Turn: J :s Mr. pissed bets the minimum of $30, big blind folds, I call
River: 10 :s Mr. pissed bets $200. I think for a bit and make the call.

Mr. pissed shows 4 :c J :c

He goes freaking ballistic. He told me that I had no idea what implied odds were and that I had no business making the call on the turn and that I was an idiot for making the call on the river. I told him that $30 dollars was pretty cheap for me to try and make my flush draw. He asked how the hell I would think that my 6 was good with a $200 bet on the river. I said that I put him on J 10 and that I was pretty close, but gave him a little too much credit. He literally went on and on about that hand for the rest of the tourney. Is he correct about my play? I just had a feeling I had the best hand, so I called, and it turned out that I was right. Any opinions?
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no worries

Postby Tank » Fri Apr 15, 2005 5:18 am

he is just pissed cause he had a weak hand and he bet it like a weak hand "implied odds" who was he Lane Flack for petes sake...it sounds like he made less than a pot size bet, If he wanted you off he should have went bigger, he didn't play like a flush, didn't act like a flush and got flushed....
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Postby Hicked93 » Tue Apr 19, 2005 4:18 pm

did u have good read on him?so that u knew he chould have only been playing high pair? i whould say it was kinda a riskey call...but then agin i whould have called also cuz when people have a high card flush they normaly bet larger... so id say unless u got a read on him then it was stupid call.. but if u read his hand like u sed j 10 then iu played it VERY well...
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Postby klas793 » Sun Apr 24, 2005 12:57 pm

The bigger question is why he was betting a pot sized bet with middle pair sh-te kicker. Haha, that's wonderful
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Postby Staided68 » Mon May 23, 2005 11:59 am

He should have bet with some balls when the flop came out.And hes in there with j 4?lol
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Postby Eded1991 » Mon May 23, 2005 3:44 pm

you see these "experts" all the time online....i love it!same as the people who blame the site for getting outdrawn.you know the ones" thats (insert site name" for you" "always the same here" "unreal".these guys never watch poker?look at doyle...2 times champion with 10 2 of spades for petes sake.if you or i called with that online we would get ridiculed.even worse he bleeding raised with that!
you gotta laugh
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Postby Mystery36 » Wed May 25, 2005 2:24 pm

The guy was a complete idiot.If you are going to bluff which is what he was doing you surely should not complain when someone calls you on it and try to make yourself look better by talking about implied odds when it was all just bs.I hope ya took him out Shake.
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Postby Fary1975 » Wed May 25, 2005 11:00 pm

you made the correct call and he just got mad about it......end of story.....it was an easy read if you ask me......because #1 you could have outdrawn him with a flush or an ace.....#2 200$ bet with 4 spades on the board is not worthy of a flush......you made the right play good job.....thats all i have to say
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Postby Amor1993 » Thu May 26, 2005 6:47 pm

it's your hand, your chips & or money, play em like you want, too many ppl trying to tell ppl what to do
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Postby Lefe1972 » Fri May 27, 2005 4:20 pm

he played his hand wrong, if he wanted to buy the pot, he should have bet more, his playing led u to believe he was trying to buy the pot, good call
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Postby Stagn1984 » Sat Jun 11, 2005 10:04 pm

im sorry ..am i missing something?? he had jacks and got mad at YOU?

hehehe hahaha lol cough choke sputter!!! hehehehehe
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Postby Cataing » Fri Jun 17, 2005 1:40 am

I think you beat him and he is mad, I'd laugh all the way to the bank. I would have taunted him instead of getting defensive after winning such a hand..

i can imagine your opponent turning redder and redder with the taunts and as you walk off with the win...
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Postby Afor1969 » Fri Jun 17, 2005 6:40 pm

I ran into one of these guys a while back. It was in a freeroll, I was dealt K7 :h I had a nice size stack, and the blinds were still real small, so I limp in with that flop comes A :h , 9 :c , 4 :s , everyone checks around. Turn comes 3 :h , everyone once again checks around, and I'm liking all these free cards. River comes and its J :h . The other guy finally bets 700, I decide not to be too greedy and just double his bet to 1400, so he goes all-in for like 3500, and of course I call him. He shows A9, and starts crying that I shouldn't have been in the hand at all. I explained to him politiely explained to him that any bet after the flop or a decent sized bet after the turn and I woulda been outta there, and it was his own fault letting me have free cards. He then proceeds to tell me I know nothing about cards, as I just sit there watching the rest of the table tell him he has no clue what's going on.
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Postby Stagn1984 » Fri Jun 17, 2005 8:56 pm

if i had his hand and (assuming the blinds were cheap enough to stay in with it) I didnt bet the flop, since it was rainbow, there is no way i would have let the turn go. That heart would have made me sweat and i would have made u pay for that flush dearly. Enough, hopefully, so u would drop those cards in a hot second. All in most likely.

He played that hand wrong, got greedy and it backfired. We all have done it. But to blame someone else because i slow played myself out of a hand is pretty low. For that alone, i think justice prevailed. Poetic justice (Grin)
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Postby Minimearts » Sat Jun 18, 2005 12:11 am

Man, NEVER get defensive about a hand or how you play any of your cards. Play the way you want and if the chat bothers you after you clean their clocks, just turn it off or ignore it.

I will NEVER feel that I need to explain to anyone how or why I play a hand ... and neither should you! :)

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