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Gookishe
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Good Strategy

Postby Gookishe » Wed May 31, 2006 3:05 am

If you ask me the best strategy at the beginning of a tournament is just to play phil hellmuths top ten hands
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Postby Gagoem » Fri Jun 02, 2006 12:36 am

That's a good approach to take.  Another is to wait out the fishes.  When I say that, I mean to be extremely cautious and patient early on in a tournament.  Shy of A's or K's, I would fold nearly any hand that I felt was a coin-flip situation with these loose all-in players.

A lot of them will feed on themselves, so why risk the chance of being eliminated with 10's or J's when you're likely to be up against a Q x, K x, or A x type hand?  All it takes is for them to hit one card, and you're out.
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Postby Whane1989 » Fri Jun 02, 2006 1:50 am

at the beginning of a  tourney i usualy fold uhnless i ahve a monster hand being ak or aa or kk its a gamble no matter how ya look at it ,  if i have nuffin i fold palin an simple hope it helps
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Re: Good Strategy

Postby Amor1993 » Fri Jun 02, 2006 2:56 am

& just what are these hands, in the beginning if it's a simple call i'll make it if not i won't :)

poker1star wrote:If you ask me the best strategy at the beginning of a tournament is just to play phil hellmuths top ten hands
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Postby Oneins » Fri Jun 02, 2006 9:14 pm

patience patience patience   also watch your position on the table and try to get into as many one on one situations as possible . when its one on one the chances of winning the hand even with bad cards are great if you make the right bets at the right time and with a good hand even better
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Postby Pred1984 » Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:33 pm

Playing tight early on is definitely a viable strategy, one that has served me pretty well.  However, it's not the only reasonable approach, especially once you've improved your game.  For instance, a number of top tournament pros advocate a "small ball" approach where they play lots of mediocre hands, especially when they're in position, but in situations where they're not risking large proportions of their chips.  That's easier to do in the deep stack tournaments they play, but the basic idea is certainly viable.
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Re: Good Strategy

Postby Honte1990 » Fri Jun 09, 2006 3:54 pm

poker1star wrote:If you ask me the best strategy at the beginning of a tournament is just to play phil hellmuths top ten hands
ON AP FREEROLL  PRIVATE OR NOT 50% OF THE PLAYERS ARE OUT AFTER 20 MINUTES SO TAKE YOUR TIME .
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Re: Good Strategy

Postby Andindeford » Fri Jun 09, 2006 10:43 pm

poker1star wrote:If you ask me the best strategy at the beginning of a tournament is just to play phil hellmuths top ten hands


way too conservative
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Postby Vared1991 » Sat Jun 10, 2006 9:01 pm

if u can limp in against the fish u only have to catch one good hand and they will call u all the way down to the river otherwise fold everything except the premium hands
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Postby Begroway » Sat Jun 10, 2006 11:36 pm

Yup I always try to see cheap flops in the beginning. If you hit big you play and if not you fold. Poker players usually aren't the smartest people in the world.
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Postby Pred1984 » Sun Jun 11, 2006 8:36 pm

I have a somewhat different take on what fub said.  I think a decent poker player is probably fairly intelligent, but there are quite a few who don't use their intelligence very well when they play and/or who don't use it well because they don't use it to work on improving their games.
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Hmm

Postby Thernand » Mon Jun 12, 2006 5:11 am

I just have to dip my toes in this one as there are comments from Rambo, Arjon and fubar.. 3 players I really admired when I started playing online poker and learning the game. I happen to agree with all points as playing tight, agressive poker is the way to go. Then again I also switch everything up and agree with Fubar and play alot of hands cheaply and attack when I hit. One thing I love about poker is the ability to change your style at will.

I think it also depends on the importance of the tournament as on a personal note, If its one Im playing that loose style I may be in one that means alot more to me at the same time. The funny thing is the one I care about Im usually struggling and the one Im playing very loose is the one I have a huge stack.

This very situation happened to me tonight.. The one I didnt pay attention too I snuck in the cash (sry Ram) and the one I was chip leader and concentrating on I hit the bubble.. Doh!
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Late tourney strategy

Postby Broand » Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:41 pm

I have been doing pretty well in freerolls and making it to the final table but I seem to always bomb out at the end....What are some good tips for final table play?
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Phil's top 10 list

Postby Broand » Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:51 pm

Where can I find Phil Helmith's top 10 hand list?
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top 10 hands

Postby Broand » Fri Jun 16, 2006 4:41 pm

I found Phil's top ten hands list and have been using it....It seems to make sense to me.  I still make bad decisions and can't get into that final table very often....Any more suggestions?

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