If u never chase u never hit

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If u never chase u never hit

Postby Strught2 » Thu Feb 16, 2006 8:19 pm

Usually I don't chase unless pot odds dictate. Problem is the odds don't seem to hit enough. How does a semi-tight player chase effectively?
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Postby Bles1985 » Fri Feb 17, 2006 10:29 pm

A semi-tight player can chase effectively by representing a fairly big hand against only 1 other player. (prefered) what I mean is u be the aggresor in the hand, u do the betting unless re-raised. That way if u do make a big hand u will kind of know where your opp. stands, and if u don't make your hand and your opp. shows weakness through out the hand, u can successfuly bluff on the turn or river!
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Postby Therinceple » Fri Feb 17, 2006 11:10 pm

There is anohter advantage to betting your draws strongly.  It helps disguise your hand, so when it hits you are more likely to get paid off.
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Postby Juseenoth82 » Fri Feb 24, 2006 11:04 pm

Pot odds are tricky in freezeout tournaments.  The odds are that say 3 out of 10 times you will make a winning hand and there is 5X the bet in the pot already.

7 out of 10 times you will lose, OK there will be another chance and 3 of 10 times you will make 5 or 10 times your money.  A good bet.

Execpt in freezeout there is no other chance if it puts you all in or severly cripples your stack.  That's where tournament position comes into big play.  Are you near the bubble?  Do you have a tinker's chance of making into the money anyway? etc.
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Postby Youct1967 » Sun Mar 05, 2006 8:36 pm

If you only chase with pot odds, you will hit your hand just enough to make it worthwhile.  That's the whole point of pot odds.  If you just want to win more, I can't really help you, probability is what it is, and you can't expect it to change for you.

Learn your pot odds for different situations and I like the other guy told you, bet those draws, particularly in late position.

You may just need to reconceptualize your game a bit.
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Postby Lart1994 » Sun Mar 12, 2006 5:15 am

I've always said they give you seven cards to make a hand.  No use throwing away after just 2 or 5.  That being said, I only chase with nothing early on, when I'm on the bubble I need something strong.
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Postby Reak1974 » Sat Mar 18, 2006 5:57 pm

I agree. It can actually save you some chips by betting out (not to large) before the turn to disguise your on a draw. In position you may just get a free river card if you miss the turn as stated above you may just steal the pot !!
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Postby Farright1969 » Sat Mar 18, 2006 6:38 pm

once i stopped chasing so much i noticed i started winning more!!!  sometimes it is worth it in u come in with a big bet and then to stay in it only costs the price of the BB then its worth it but u have to be smart about ur play in not let things get out of control with the chasing.

sure every now and then u can be foolish and hit ur str8 or flush by staying in hands u have no business staying in but luck only lasts so long so tread carefully.
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Postby Vared1991 » Sat Mar 18, 2006 8:32 pm

if ur getting odds i always chase, not exactly chasing if the price is right

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