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Is it ever right to fold boat when there's a pair on board?

Postby Strught2 » Thu Feb 16, 2006 8:16 pm

2 times in 2 days my nut boat cracked on pockets hitting quads on turn and river. Both hands all-in was on river. For me these were both monster pots ($.10 NL ring game) $18.80 and $21. My bankroll at this site was $90 I lost $22. Spent about 20 hours building this from $4 free roll winnings. And yes I was slow playing 2 build these pots. Do I need 2 change my game?
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Postby Whasuff » Tue Feb 21, 2006 10:31 pm

I don't think you misplayed it.  I'd be hard pressed to lay down a fb.  The odds of someone having 4 of a kind are very low.  The only thing I would have been concerned about would be losing to a higher full boat.  Otherwise I'd play it.  On another note, you probably shouldn't have slow played.

Just my 2 cents.

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Postby Thernand » Wed Feb 22, 2006 2:58 am

In tournaments knowing your opponent helps.. I as alot of us have folded full houses when in doubt, But in a ring game you dont know as much info on these players and even though you took a couple hits.. Odds always even themseleves out.. If your unsure.. Dont re-raise his big bet on the river.. call it.. Well unless he pushes and your left to make a hard choice.
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Postby Youct1967 » Sun Feb 26, 2006 7:23 pm

Yes, it is.  It's all context.

If the board is double paired and you have the lower pair matched for a boat, it's often okay.

You have to evaluate stack depth and your opponents.

Is their 4 to a str8 flush on the board?

Is the play you're seeing consistent with a hand that could beat you?

Are you playing omaha and you don't have an upper full boat?

Are you playing omaha or holdem and an upper full boat is likely?

Say you have 88 and the board is AAKT9.  Is AK or AT likely?

It's mostly a question of judgement which comes from experience.  And usually you just have to pay off the other guy...

It's a highly advanced play to lay down most boats.  For less experienced players, I think it's generally a bad idea.
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Postby Juseenoth82 » Sat Mar 04, 2006 8:50 pm

Any hand short of a royal can (and will) be beaten.  When it happens to you, you second guess your actions.  That is natural.  In the long run, play the big hands and let the odds correct your losses.

I just have trouble making the long run.
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Postby Frook1971 » Sat Mar 04, 2006 10:54 pm

Online and for the most part live you can almost never put someone on quads. Don't worry about it. You had the 2nd nut hand both times and you should be willing to stick all your money in with these situations. Good luck.
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Postby Pred1984 » Sun Mar 05, 2006 12:54 am

Two hands don't indicate very much in terms of whether you need to change your game.  A better indicator would be your win rate.  Among other possibilities, two ways of measuring this are big bets per 100 hands (1 big bet = 2 big blinds) and $ per table per hour.  At micro-limits, 10+ BB/100 is probably a pretty decent rate.  When the big blind is 10 cents, this is roughly equivalent to $1 per table per hour.
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wh6 paly small money

Postby Billessic2 » Sun Mar 05, 2006 10:17 am

i dont understand the sma ll money gamne, play biger money and less people will chase you!

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