How good is AK?

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Husafter
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any pair is better then ak

Postby Husafter » Sun Dec 11, 2005 8:38 pm

look on online poker people go all in with ak all the time just to get busted by 33 or 88. always play low pairs is what i do
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Postby Pred1984 » Sun Dec 11, 2005 9:53 pm

Any pair is a slight favorite against two overcards, be they AK or any other.  However, that's only one situation, with just two players in the hand.  Add in a third person, and the odds can change quite a bit.  Also, who says the opponent has to have overcards?  You're in bad shape if you're up against an overpair.
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Postby Youpirse2 » Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:53 am

I would have to disagree with any pair is better than AK due to the fact that when you're sitting on low pair and 9 10 Q hits the board it's a really tough read to know that you're 22 is still the best hand.

I would take AK over any 22, 33, 44, 55, 66 hand.

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Postby Therinceple » Sat Dec 17, 2005 10:28 pm

This is nitpicking, but here it is anyway.  It's not always true that any pair is a favorite against 2 over cards.  JTs is a small favorite over small pocket pairs.
Suited connectors can be a favorite over small Pocket pairs.
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Postby Fitain1996 » Sat Dec 17, 2005 10:28 pm

AK depends on your situation.  Early on, in a sit n go for example, AK would be a much easier fold than having AK with 3 or 4 people left.
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Postby Caece1977 » Sun Jan 15, 2006 7:58 pm

I think AK can get overrated sometimes,  I would  much rather have any pocket pair in a heads up situation
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Postby Pruchalk » Tue Jan 17, 2006 11:29 pm

AK is a great hand...preflop. What too many players forget is, it's a drawing hand...nothing more. I am amazed (and sometimes thrilled, if I'm in the pot) at how many players will ride AK to the bitter end, in spite of missing the flop, turn, AND river. Some people just can't lay them down. They're only good if you catch something. You have to play AK knowing that you just might have to walk away from it.
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Re: any pair is better then ak

Postby Orneved » Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:34 pm

[quote="killersaces"]look on online poker people go all in with ak all the time just to get busted by 33 or 88. always play low pairs is what i do[/quote]

not necessairy since i got busted by AK with a pair of Jacks

eric
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Postby Yousand » Fri Jan 20, 2006 8:48 pm

I think that pyschologically AK appeals to people much more than small pocket pairs because A & K are the big guns of the pack. Nearly everyflop that comes down will have at least one over card to a small pair. This puts the guy with the pair on shaky ground because he will never know where he is in the hand. Even if the AK is played weak post flop the pocket pair will be wondering if he is trapping or being cautious on a middle pair he might have hit.

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Postby Orneved » Sat Jan 21, 2006 1:53 am

[quote="Dazmon"]I think that pyschologically AK appeals to people much more than small pocket pairs because A & K are the big guns of the pack. Nearly everyflop that comes down will have at least one over card to a small pair. This puts the guy with the pair on shaky ground because he will never know where he is in the hand. Even if the AK is played weak post flop the pocket pair will be wondering if he is trapping or being cautious on a middle pair he might have hit.

8)[/quote]i would rather be aggressive with a small pair than AK,  there is less than a 70 percent chance in most flops that another A or K will show up to give you the possible lead.

eric
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Postby Ouseetteled » Sun Jan 22, 2006 1:42 am

Iagree totaly!!
Many players overbet AK and get beat.
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Ak vs low pockets

Postby Thernand » Sun Jan 22, 2006 7:07 am

The is too many scenarios.. I like to think of it as a coin flip. If you have the chips to gamble..sure it isnt a bad hand to give it a go. If it comes down to your tournament life.. I think Id take the pair.
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Postby Youct1967 » Sun Jan 22, 2006 9:06 am

AK is favored because it matches up very well against any hand other than AA/KK.  That's a lot of hands.  In fact, it's about 218/220 hands.

Sklansky has a nice section in Tournament Poker for Advanced Players that gives the topic the attention it deserves.  It changed how I saw AK.

The smaller pairs I like too, but they don't match up so wonderfully.  You're either a huge dog 82:18 or a slight favorite.  Against JTs, 77 is actually favored to lose and similar situations are just as bad (QJs versus 88 for instance).  Against JTo, smaller pairs are about even.  

Check pokerstove.com to check out this lesser known fact about smaller pocket pairs and middle suited connectors a few cards in value away from them.
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Postby Coveregs » Sun Jan 22, 2006 10:01 am

i think the most important thing in your sentence was the ONLINE poker part. people go in with anything, not just AK. that is just the stupidity of the people playing online. you shouldn't generalize everyone going all in with AK. i think it's actually alright if you call all in with AK but yeah it's true it's just a drawing hand. i prefer to raise a little preflop and see how it goes.
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ak vs pairs

Postby Aree1996 » Sun Jan 22, 2006 6:45 pm

i don't care what anyone says, it's a coinflip, low pairs are very dangerous, the board might even beat them! Trust me i have been there.

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