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Theauster
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Postby Theauster » Sun Oct 30, 2005 1:40 pm

in large free rolls at the start so many people want to go all in is it worth it as people go in with rubbish.

ive seen a good hand AA KK QQ AK JJ beat so many times at the start of a torney because  5 people will go in with K3  Q7  5 10suited


Any thoughts?



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Brible
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Postby Brible » Sun Oct 30, 2005 4:24 pm

Yes i see it happen all the time too, everyone wants to go all in at the start, ive lost myself going all in with AA,KK so no i dont think that it is worth it, wait as the tourny goes on people will die off, then you can play real poker
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Postby Housight » Sun Oct 30, 2005 6:34 pm

I svoid the first 20 hands if possible inless in the blinds for cheap and this normally thins out the morons....then you can play poker
Cultin
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Postby Cultin » Fri Nov 11, 2005 3:29 am

yes I've seen that happen many times.... I try to control myself and not follow no matter what I've got because often it's pure luck not skill that wins those hands.
Busert
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Postby Busert » Sat Nov 12, 2005 10:35 am

I just sit out for large freeroll for first 5 minutes sometimes.  :D
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Postby Disper » Sun Nov 13, 2005 6:24 pm

These people are the "bingo" players of the poker world.  They feel that if they get lucky and double or triple up in the beginning it is worth the chance.  They also feel that if they lose and go out they have time to play the "next" freeroll.  So the best way is to wait out the bingo players.  It usually only takes the first 15 mins to half hour for the larger freerolls to be down to 1/2 or 1/4 of what actually started.
Weng1990
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Postby Weng1990 » Sat Nov 19, 2005 8:06 pm

I think most player that do this are looking at the time involved. If an average tourney takes 4 to 5 hours then they want to get a good start by doubling up. I myself have done this especially at bet354 or one of the other prima sites were you can have 10,000 entries. Now I wait until I have a high pair or big slick. I think mainly its about your time and what its worth.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

Now what does stink is when you have been playing good hands for a couple of hours then get taken out with a 7-2 off hand.
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Postby Pred1984 » Sat Nov 19, 2005 8:22 pm

I've seen many people justify this style of play by using the argument that they don't want to waste hours.  They're not likely to be convinced otherwise by someone else.  Eventually, some learn that doubling up or more early in a large tournament, while better than not doing so, isn't nearly as important as they think.  When there are 5 million or more chips in play, you're probably going to need a few hundred thousand to place highly.  So having say 3K early instead of 1K is a pretty small head start.
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Postby Keirock85 » Sun Nov 20, 2005 12:15 am

Me too!!!  I always figure they are ppl that don't have a clue, but half the time it's an ole pro trying to cash in while the getting is easy.
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Postby Eyettle » Sun Nov 20, 2005 12:54 am

All ins are definitely overused. You should try to get the most chips out of someone especially if you have the nuts. Preflop also way to many people are going all in. You should only go all in preflop if you have one of these hands A A  K K  or Q Q  because you probably have the advantage if someone calls.
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Postby Peons1993 » Sun Nov 20, 2005 1:08 am

people who play like this may be lucky enough to win a couple of hands.  but everyone's luck runs out, play smart and more times then not the suck outs will weed themselves out.
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Postby Spoemand2 » Sun Dec 04, 2005 12:46 am

I usually just play real tight against the maniacs at first, and take reasonable sized pots to build my stack so later I could make that call
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Postby Unswed » Sun Dec 04, 2005 1:17 am

it really depends on your position and hole cards, but i rarely go all in first hand,,Patience plus luck plus opportunistic bluffing is the formula for good poker
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Postby Theirthe » Sun Dec 04, 2005 2:20 am

More than half the people just play in the freeroll for no reason and just go all in. Its just what you call plain dumb and is starting to ruin the freerolls like they used to be. The more people they are the  more people that dont care.
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Postby Courpastruce » Sun Dec 04, 2005 1:18 pm

as i would say they deal the same amount of cards everytime and it is gambling.  all that is talked about is low limit or freerolls.  so u get what u pay for

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